Monday, September 24th, 2007...7:38 am

Musings of a Seminarian 4-Living Hell and Living Well; Has Revelation Ceased?

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The Series
1. Introduction
2. Postmodernism, The Emerging Church, Truth and Knowing
3. Thoughts on Orthodoxy and Fundamentals

Today is a double feature podcast! The first one is a reflection on a conversation I had with a friend regarding her dying mother and the fact she has lived well within a living hell; her mother has had a shitty life, but one that reflects the way of Jesus, yet would not be categorized as “saved” by most Christians. And I really wrestle with what God does with someone like her…

The other post is on a Systematic Theology 1 class discussion over the nature of revelation and whether or not revelation has ceased. I say one kind has and another hasn’t.

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  • novus•lumen | living in the tension of an emerging faith and postmodern America » Blog Archive » Communal Wrestiling With “Living Hell and Living Well”
    September 28th, 2007 at 7:12 am

    [...] weird to think about people writing me emails about my thoughts!) sent me an email about my “Living Hell and Living Well” podcast. His thoughts are both personal and thoughtful so I thought I would post them (with [...]

  • Kim
    October 7th, 2007 at 11:03 pm

    your musings are thought provoking….keep them coming :)

  • John
    October 19th, 2007 at 10:52 am

    Hey Jeremy,

    thank you for the thoughts on the question of cessation. I am also taking a systematic theology class and is still unclear as to where I should stand.
    The foundational aspect of apostles and NT prophets described in Ephesians 2:20, points to the cessation of prophecies. And in view of 1 Cor 14:20-25, if prophecies have ceased, then tongues have also ceased.

    Prophet by definition, is God’s spokesman, and its cessation is evident by the lack of written records or evidence of a single prophet over the past ~2000 years (this is up to debate as well).

    I believe inscripturation (textual) have ceased, however, I am not convinced that special revelation has ceased because there is no evidence in the scripture that states that and we ought not to limit God’s power.

    By faith, and in the study of Holy Scriptures, may God guide us in the right direction.

    Cheers

  • Jeremy
    October 27th, 2007 at 8:32 pm

    Hi John!

    Thanks for dropping by novus•lumen and listening to my ramblings and commenting :) Sorry I haven’t responded in a bit, but seminary has squeezed all of time out of my reality!

    And YES…I’m a bit ‘unsettled’ in where I stand on revelation, too. On the one hand it makes sense to think that what God desired to communicate to humanity was codified in the Text, and that communication is over with, because what God wanted to say was said…but on the other hand to say that God doesn’t reveal anymore is iffy for me.

    And YES…”By faith, and in the study of Holy Scriptures, may God guide us in the right direction.” May he continue guiding us both and painting what is real about Himself and His Reality…

    -jeremy

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